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For myself (and several girls I know) I go out in a group of MEN not women. Not ever.

And when I've been out with women typically it's meant to be a night where we do NOT want any men involved, male attention, men trying to pick us up, or strange men horning in.

In truth, all I see is the Alpha Female kicking your ass out of the group and reminding you that she runs the show there.

Also, you should stop telling anyone to be "dominant" or just use a different word because when a person refers to that behavior in a man OR a woman, the person thinks it means they are supposed to be demanding, obnoxious, sexist, and controlling.

No woman wants a guy trying to make decisions for her or worse...horning in on her relationship with her OTHER male friends???

Maybe I don't understand this post and that's why I'm not getting it.

April 17, 2010 10:16:00 AM EST Assanova said... Women over the age of 24 usually make their own decisions. However, most (not all) women under the age of 25 have a group-think mentality, hence, why winning over the group is such a huge topic in the world of pick-up. When you're talking about younger women, social game is where it's at.

I never wrote about this, but awhile back in January, a PUA instructor was in town teaching a student (the instructor looked south Asian, and refused to tell me who he was). I was being friendly, told the guy who I was, and it was pretty obvious that he was trying to do some kind of frame control in order to look good in front of his student. In short, he said that the place was “sarged out” and that routines didn’t work on women. I guess that was how he explained just standing around waiting on women to come to him and not approaching in front of his student.

Anyhow, just to prove a point, I picked up a girl right in front of him, using nothing but routines (I did an opinion opener, teased my target with a role play, isolated her with marry/fuck/kill, and number closed her after I did strawberry fields). When I tried to introduce her to him, he ignored us, and was so pissed off afterwards that he took his student and left.


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